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  Australie Wines?????

  by manicmama in

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  2. friends

  i know you guys are the experts so i have a question.

  what is a good reasonably priced bottle of red from australia?

  i prefer very dry cabernet's.

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  Pork Chop

  You should try Chilean. I think their reds are generally better than Australia's. Aussie whites are better.

  Los Vascos is usually pretty reliable and very reasonably priced.
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  when you go out to eat or for a walk do active jw's shout insults or attack

  by topanga in

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  2. friends

  this is a regular thing now, whenever i go into an upscale restaurant a bunch of jw's start shouting insults and bring up things about my past.. recently i went in to a restaurant i've been dying to try on 14th street and someone on the restaurant staff was telling the other staff members all of my business from the brroklyn heights congregation.. he obviously thought i would give a damn about anything they said.

  i just relaxed and ignored them.. when i got up to use the ladies room a bunch of the sisters followed me in fortunately the bathroom was way too small for even two people.

  they are some sorry souls, i guess it was like i thought we killed her whats she doing in here?

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  I'm saying this is complete nonsense. I think the guy is lying in his teeth. I have never seen or heard of one thing in the organization that would support, encourage, or even allow this kind of behaviour. However, and I'm not trying to be insulting, anyone that believes this restaurant story is a fool.

  You'd have to give me some context on your personal experience before I could comment on it. And yes, most dubs are little pacifists, not all, but most.
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  In the US: Our Children Will Be Subjected to Selective Service Very Soon

  by gespro in

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  2. current

  has this been discussed already?

  if it has, please point me to the thread addressing this

  i just heard this last night.

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  John McCain was asked about this today and he said no way. The lengthy training and expertise required for today's military does not lend itself to a short term, conscript force and there are plenty of volunteers. Today's soldier is not cannon fodder.
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  In the US: Our Children Will Be Subjected to Selective Service Very Soon

  by gespro in

  1. social
  2. current

  has this been discussed already?

  if it has, please point me to the thread addressing this

  i just heard this last night.

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  Pork Chop

  This has been completely debunked. Just a 'not very successful' scare tactic.
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  when you go out to eat or for a walk do active jw's shout insults or attack

  by topanga in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is a regular thing now, whenever i go into an upscale restaurant a bunch of jw's start shouting insults and bring up things about my past.. recently i went in to a restaurant i've been dying to try on 14th street and someone on the restaurant staff was telling the other staff members all of my business from the brroklyn heights congregation.. he obviously thought i would give a damn about anything they said.

  i just relaxed and ignored them.. when i got up to use the ladies room a bunch of the sisters followed me in fortunately the bathroom was way too small for even two people.

  they are some sorry souls, i guess it was like i thought we killed her whats she doing in here?

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  Pork Chop

  Does anyone really believe this nonsense?
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  WT legal licking its lips??

  by Pork Chop in

  1. social
  2. current

  url: sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/04/13/bagio640m811.dtl

  a former member and longtime critic of the church of scientology has been ordered by a marin county judge to pay the church $500,000 for speaking out against the controversial religious movement.

  superior court judge lynn duryee issued that order in a breach-of- contract lawsuit against scientology defector gerald armstrong.

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  URL: sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/04/13/BAGIO640M811.DTL

  A former member and longtime critic of the Church of Scientology has been ordered by a Marin County judge to pay the church $500,000 for speaking out against the controversial religious movement.

  Superior Court Judge Lynn Duryee issued that order in a breach-of- contract lawsuit against Scientology defector Gerald Armstrong.

  The Church of Scientology had sought $10 million from Armstrong, who joined the church in 1969, left the fold in 1981 and later became one of the movement's harshest critics.

  He was sued by the church in 1984 for allegedly stealing thousands of pages of private papers that shed new light on the movement's mysterious founder, the late L. Ron Hubbard. Hubbard, a prolific science-fiction writer and freelance philosopher, founded the Church of Scientology in the 1950s and died in 1986.

  During his years in Scientology, Armstrong says he worked as an intelligence officer and communications officer and compiled documents for a church-sponsored biography of Hubbard. He says he has been in Scientology's sights since the church filed its 1984 lawsuit in Los Angeles County Superior Court to get control of Hubbard's private papers.

  Judge Paul Breckenridge Jr., who presided over that case, issued a ruling in which he called Hubbard "virtually a pathological liar when it comes to his history, background and achievements." In settling that case in 1986, Armstrong agreed to return the documents. He says that the church paid him $515,000 ($800,000 including his lawyer's fee) and that his attorney at the time persuaded him to sign an agreement promising to "maintain strict confidentiality and silence with respect to his experiences with the Church of Scientology."

  That agreement says Armstrong would pay $50,000 for every utterance about Scientology. The church maintains that Armstrong has violated the agreement at least 201 times and owes it just over $10 million.

  Duryee heard arguments Friday from Ford Greene, a San Anselmo anti-cult lawyer who represented Armstrong, and Scientology attorney Andrew Wilson of Sausalito.

  Duryee then ordered Armstrong to pay $500,000 to his former church. The judge discharged two previous contempt-of-court citations against Armstrong and sentenced him to five days in jail for a third contempt order issued during his long battle fighting Scientology lawyers.

  But Duryee said she would consider that five days already served because Armstrong, a former Marin County resident, traveled from Chilliwack, British Columbia, for his court appearance.

  Wilson called Duryee's ruling a victory for Scientology.

  Greene said he was disappointed that Duryee upheld "an extremely one- sided contract that seeks to gag" his client. "He made a deal with the devil. ''

  The lawyer noted that his client had declared bankruptcy to avoid paying past damages won by Scientology, and Armstrong still vows to never pay a penny to the church. "They (Scientology) know the only way to silence Armstrong is to shoot him,'' Greene said. "This suit is really directed at other people who might be inclined to speak out. It's a PR ploy to keep other people silent.''
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  Went To The Quick Build

  by Undecided in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just returned from the building site of the new kh.

  i had never seen a quick build.

  it kind of made me sad, i saw so many old friends that i used to know.

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  Pork Chop

  Waste of time Sad, these guys aren't interested in the facts.
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  The New and Improved JWs Now With 3 classes of Christians!

  by XQsThaiPoes in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the study articles are amazing.

  i can't tell if anyone caught it but they are ground breakingly incompetent.

  the have redefined 1914, the anointed, fds and the "evil slave".

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  Pork Chop

  This is nothing new.
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  Went To The Quick Build

  by Undecided in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just returned from the building site of the new kh.

  i had never seen a quick build.

  it kind of made me sad, i saw so many old friends that i used to know.

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  Pork Chop

  A very rare event, but when it happens the money gets prorated to the various congregations to whom the publishers are dispersed, unless they vote to donate the money to the world wide work or something of that nature, it's their call.

  Assembly halls are a completely different deal.
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  Went To The Quick Build

  by Undecided in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just returned from the building site of the new kh.

  i had never seen a quick build.

  it kind of made me sad, i saw so many old friends that i used to know.

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  Pork Chop

  I know all about the deal in Texas, and there has been no change since. My informationl is recent, I will say it applies to the US and I have limited knowledge of other countries so I suppose it could be different there. But, in the US the Hall belongs to the congregation(s). As I said, this is a perpetual myth, I don't know why people keep going back to it when there are so many real issues to talk about.